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At the outbreak of war in 1939 he would have been 28 years old, working as a
plumber for the building company, Bakers, in Handsworth,
He was not immediately
enlisted, probably because of the need for skilled workers during the blitz. He
worked in
He eventually received his call up papers probably in late 1942 and chose to join the navy. I once asked him “Why the navy”. His answer was “In the navy you always know where your bed is” He did his basic training at HMS Royal Arthur which I believe was followed by Gunnery training at Rosyth on the Firth of Forth. His class of about 50 consisted of men like himself in their early 30s who had been held back for one reason or another, or young lads of 18 who had just come of age.
After training he was posted to The Royal Naval Patrol Service, nicknamed Harry
Tate’s Navy, Harry Tate being a popular comedian of the time. He reported to the
Patrol Service base at
On reaching Gibralter he found he had a while to wait around before the ship he was posted to returned, so they gave him the job of P.O.s mess man. At this time his brother in law, my uncle Elijah (Ernie) Clark was serving on the “Rock” with the Royal Artillery, so he decided to look him up. Ernie complained to Don about the food being served to the Gunners. “Not very good and not enough of it”. A lot of the Petty Officers would often go out drinking and leave their meal uneaten. So Ernie would slip round the back of the P.O.s mess at night and Don would feed him up on Steak and Kidney Pies.
After a week or two in Gib. the ship he was to join arrived. It was the H.M.T. Man o’War, she was a coal burning steam trawler. Before the war she was owned by a fishing company possibly from Fleetwood. The company had a tradition of naming its trawlers after famous racehorses. Man o’War was a famous American racehorse.
The Man o’Wars main armament was a 4 inch gun on the whaleback, she had a number of machine guns and a rack of depth charges at the stern. The forward fish hold had been converted into the seamen’s mess. Don joined the 4inch gun crew as the sightsetter. As I understand it this involved adjusting the sights to compensate for the roll of the ship. The gun layer, who was in charge of the gun, aimed then fired.
At this time the Man o’War was active escorting convoys from Gib. along the
North African coast into
The Americans were always well provisioned and a vast amount of supplies lay in
On one of his ships visits to
The Man o’War was also involved in patrolling the straits of
On returning to Gib. an Engine Room Artificer came aboard to look at the problem. He stripped it all down, laying the parts out in the order that he had removed them. The ERA then went for his dinner. Along came one of Don’s shipmates, looked at all these bits and pieces neatly laid out on the deck, picked up a small spring and flipped it over the side. The ERA returned from his dinner to re-assemble the gear. The fault persisted.
The Man o’War was ordered to return to
Crossing the
During this storm Don was taking a stint on the wheel, battling to keep the ship on course. With him was the bosun, one of the few professional seamen on board. Seeing Don struggling, the bosun took over the wheel. After a while the skipper shouted to the wheelhouse “Winter, you’re hopeless, put the bosun on the wheel” The bosun shouted back “I’ve been on the wheel for the last half hour sir”
The Man o’War eventually made it back to the
After a spot of leave he had to report back to
Donald joined the Brinmaric as a seaman gunner and was replacing a leading seaman who was the ships gunner. The leading seaman was supposed to leave the ship to do a gunlayers course but the skipper persuaded his superiors and managed to keep both the leading seaman and Don. The Brinmarics only armament was an Oerliken gun on the foredeck. This was a dual purpose machine gun for surface or anti-aircraft roles. It fired a 20mm cannon (exploding) shell. Don’s task was to service and fire the Oerlikon and also maintain the small armoury of pistols, rifles and even cutlasses.
HMY Brinmaric was a wooden hulled diesel powered yacht. When serving in the Patrol Service as a minesweeper she was often used for entertaining the “brass” where drinks and mock salmon sandwiches (tinned sardines, mashed with a dash of vinegar) were served. She earned the nickname ‘The Gin Palace’ among the crew.
The Brinmaric had been equipped with ASDIC to detect underwater objects which at
the time must have been state of the art technology. She was not involved in the
During this period they were
crossing the channel quite frequently and while in
In the navy every man was entitled to a daily rum ration which was usually
served at lunch time. My father enjoyed a pint of beer but was never a spirits
drinker so he gave up his rum ration and registered as ‘temperance’. For this he
received 3 pence a day extra on his pay. In the regular navy the rum was watered
down to become grog but on the Brinmaric they didn’t bother and served the
spirit neat. Some of the crew must have been bottling their ration which was
strictly illegal. The first lieutenant got suspicious and issued a warning of a
locker inspection in the morning and if any spirits were found there would be
trouble. At this time my uncle ‘Bill’
Another story that Don related to me was that the Brinmaric swept up a new type
of German contact mine. The usual procedure to deal with contact mines when they
had been swept to the surface was to sink them with rifle fire rather than try
to detonate them. But on this occasion, being a new type it was decided to
salvage it for examination by HMS Vernon. They managed to get a line on it in
order to tow it inshore and onto the beach. A message that this new type of mine
was being salvaged found its way to
Don was asked what he thought of the American seamen he met. He thought that they didn’t show the mines enough respect. On one occasion while the Brinmaric was sounding one of the French ports for mines, an American transport vessel came steaming in. She had been warned not to enter because there were mines around. A mine was triggered, and blew a hole in the bottom of the vessel – she settled down in the shallow water.
On another occasion Don witnessed a US Destroyer open fire on a surfaced contact mine with an Oerliken using explosive shells. There was a big bang and a lot of broken glass and blast damage.
Donald served with the Brinmaric into 1946 and always had a good word for the
skipper. On at least one occasion Don was sent for to take a gun layers course.
This would have meant a promotion but also a probable
In February 1946 he was transferred to HMS Vernon to go through the process of
demobilization. On the eve of his demob he was ordered by the
The only shipmate that I can remember him mentioning by name was Archie Bonthram who hailed from Measham in Liecestershire. Whether Archie served on the Man o’War or Brinmaric, I don’t know.
Donald
was awarded the Victory Medal, the France Germany,
On returning to civilian life he again worked for Bakers but soon moved on. He
got a job as a pipefitter at Albright and Wilsons, a large chemical firm in
Oldbury to the west of
Donald worked for Albrights (now Rhodia) for 27 years until his retirement. He kept active and for a time worked casually, delivering motor cars around the country. He was a lifelong Aston Villa supporter and also enjoyed a day out watching the horseracing.
He passed away in 2003 at the age of 92.
Well, that’s about it. I’ve tried to relate these tales as accurately as I can remember my father telling them to me. I’m sure I’ve made some mistakes in the telling, after all this has been only a second hand account. If there are any old “sparrows” out there who can correct any mistake in this story I would welcome it. But, like my father, I suppose they’ve mostly passed on now.
The Patrol Service was disbanded after the war and is all but forgotten today. But the men who served in the Royal Naval Patrol Service did something quite unique. They all went to war in vessels that were not designed or made for warfare, and should be held in highest regard by the service and their country.
David Winter.